John Birchall lost his fight with cancer on 15th July 2020 - exactly one year after this interview.
If you want to know what bravery sounds like then listen to this gentle, softly spoken man who was under no illusions about his cancer when he spoke to me.
We talk frankly and yet easily about his journey with cancer which started at his home in France.
The cancer is by no means the whole of John's life, but he wanted to tell the story because in his own words 'if it benefits or helps someone else then the story is worth telling.'
Such a nice man as you will hear for yourselves as you listen to this very brave soul.